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this is my roof and I want to put solar panels on it but it looks like it’s an awkward roof for it I’m looking at the house from due south at the moment so you can see it’s a sunny bright day that’s the southwest side and this is the southeast fa inside the front of the house so let me just walk around and you can tell me what you think about the roof and perhaps you can give me some advice and some ideas on how we can move forward and make the most of the roof space we’ve got how many panels do you think I can fit up on this Southeast facing part you can see already the front Gable protruding and you can see a bit of shade there that it’s casting on that Southeast roof um from the ridge down to the um sopit is approximately 4 and 1 half M and so that will give you an idea of how many panels could could potentially be cited up there but um of course as I move around the roof you’ll see that there’s not much chance of me getting anything up here that fa is facing Southwest um of course this this side doesn’t get shaded until very very late in the day there’s not much room up okay well this is the back roof of my house the lighting isn’t great but hopefully you can see that we’ve got a generous Siz roof there facing the wrong direction this house is about 8 m wide and again from the gutters up to the ridge is is the 4 and 1 half MERS so I guess we can get about 12 panels on there from what I understand and this this direction we’re facing Northwest so it’s less than ideal the sun does come round here even during January we get a bit of sun round here for the last couple of hours of the day but during the summer we get a lot of sun round here once the Sun comes round to West we’re getting a a lot of sun on the roof so what do you think is it worth exploring options on this larger surface uh although of course there’s going to be a reduced output and generation what would you do I know we’ve got a good uh Gable end here that captures Sun for most of the day as that one’s facing uh Southwest but I know that uh vertically mounted panels aren’t really a done thing in the UK at the moment let me know all right here we go guys guys now you can see what octopus energy has quoted me on for some reason as I’ve saved this as a PDF it’s taken out the picture of my house but I’m sure you can still imagine from the last clip this is the front of the house and this is what has been proposed six panels five in portrait one in landscape at the bottom to try and fill the roof space so it’s a system size of 2.43 kilowatt um that is using octopus are using 4 five W panels maybe if I scroll down I get some more info shout out to Jack Jack Perry maybe this will come back to you maybe it won’t uh found him uh really uh responsive helpful um and uh yeah I can’t fault him so they’ve quoted me 8,799 and um only net Savings of 3,189 over the system live time and 11,988 so the system consists of obviously the six panels and a 5.2 KW battery let me scroll down through their quote and let’s see exactly here we go so I don’t know about different brands and everything else ja solar seems to be quite reputable uh from what I understand pretty much all of the solar panels are much of a muchness there doesn’t seem to be uh much between them and you can see it comes with a 12year product warranty and a 25e performance warranty and it shows the generation of 2,156 kwatt hours per year now crucially my consumption is going to be something in the region of 5,500 kwatt hours per year that is just forecast because we’re new with a heat pump so we don’t really know what we’re going to be using over the year but this seems to be inconsequential when we consider the total power consumption of our house and we don’t have an EV yet so this is not um looking very good for future proofing um moving down this is give energy hybrid gen 3 battery give energy seem to be very well regarded from my quick research and I have heard a lot about give energy and of course their stuff integrates very well with octopus octopus on some of their intelligent uh tar can actually take control of the give energy components in your house to charge and discharge at the most beneficial times for you so it includes a 5.2 kwh battery which as I say from my consumption isn’t really going to touch the sides since we’ve had the heat pump in our um our daily consumption has averaged between 15 to 30 kilowatt hours so doesn’t really touch the sides and I think that give energy don’t quote usable storage I think that’s the total storage so I think the usable storage will be less but that may need some uh investigation solar bird exclusion kit that always annoys me when I’m walking around uh going on a long walk and I see birds up on a roof Walking In and Out Underneath solar panels I think oh it’s just a waste the bird exclusion kit looks to be peanuts relative to the system cost anyway let’s go down to system performance by the way I don’t like the way that this outputs this proposal it shows up the top here the you know the headline figures and contact details and then it just truncates everything over into this left-and column and just leaves an empty rightand column so I end up with nine pages of lots of Blank Space anyway shows that I will be able to get 43 % of my energy from solar and this is a forecast of some of the consumption versus generation and you can see even at the very Peaks the forecast is that I will never generate enough solar to cover my consumption the gray is the consumption the pink is the generation from the solar panels so um of course these are all for forecasts so you know there’s lots of variables to take into account but um it’s not looking promising so far is it environmental benefits okay let’s have a look 546 kilogram of CO2 save per year well that’s great but that is that is very little compared to what we could do with uh a vehicle or our heating system so our heat pump for example is going to save us at least four times the amount of carbon per year so not to uh you know not to be down on it too bad because any saving is worth while but uh I I think it’s uh maybe you could place especially when you’re talking about this amount of money maybe you could put your money elsewhere through insulation or heating system if you’re interested in reducing your carbon footprint don’t think in this case solar panels and a battery are the best uh chance uh best choice uh over the system lifetime equivalent to 103 trees planted and 16,000 km on a car avoided 16,000 km is almost exactly 10,000 miles I haven’t checked recently but that used to be the average um mileage that a UK driver would do in a year so that’s one year of driving for the whole lifetime of the solar panels so this kind of goes into what I was saying about um reducing carbon carbon footprint 12 Long Haul flights avoided okay great but uh it’s not really that much is it this shows about um some of the differences between offsetting and this will show some of the financial impacts um here you can see that the break even point is very very far away does it tell me exactly when that was um no these were the this you’ve all seen before so they would need £5,000 sorry 500 up front and then the balance would be paid once it’s uh been completed and commissioned and then it shows some of the maximum battery output of 2.6 kilow so there would be many times that the house could potentially be drawing more than that especially if we’re heating the house with a heat pump Cooking With A induction cooker for example and this won’t be that helpful at all to us so um what else do we need to consider here uh I wanted to have a look this shows that uh the orientation of the panels degrees from South 50° to you Pros out there that may mean something they’ve quoted at 35° tilt I know my roof is closer to 30 degrees um so this may all mean a bit more to some of you uh Wizards out there either enthusiasts or professionals so maybe you can give me a little bit of uh help in hand here to see if this is a good idea or a bad idea this looks incredibly expensive to me so I’m going to be uh seeking out several other quotes of course like I always do if you saw my heat pump video you’ll see I went a bit crazy went for a good uh 20 or so uh suppliers that I contacted and only ended up getting a handful of quotes I don’t want to waste anyone’s time I don’t mind so much with some of these big companies sorry Jack if you’re watching this but I know that octopus uh can absorb some of the cost whereas some of the smaller family run businesses that I like to do my business with and I’d like to give them the custom they will you know every minute of their time is valuable and so I I like to try and flesh out exactly what I’m looking for before I get in touch with some of the more local firms to see what they can offer um hopefully can we this isn’t showing me exactly which year this breaks even but is this every year so is that 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 years to break even and then we’re only making okay we are making savings but relatively small savings considering the time frame if we were looking at this from just a financial perspective and we were just investing financially um 8,799 in a in a savings account with a 5% interest rate what is that going to make us over this time let’s see if we can do a brief little calculation and I’ll get back to okay guys I’ve just plugged the figures into a compound compound interest calculator to get a rough figure of the savings that we would potentially make if we were investing 8,799 into a savings account with a 5% interest rate I know that’s high right now there’s not any guarantee that we’ll be able to receive um such uh promising rates in the future but over the course of 25 years you would be looking to build that 8,799 into over 30,000 and um even in the first hang on how many years would that be within within six to seven years you would be able to receive that £ 3,189 in interest so this is not looking like such a great return on investment I think that’s probably due to the uh poor roof that I’ve got um the final thing to say is octopus energy I guess their policy being risk averse they’re not interested in my Northwest facing roof at all even though it’s a very large roof um I think Jack was saying that he would be able to size up 12 panels on the roof but because of the orientation of it octopus just wouldn’t put any panels on there a lot more of the DIY and enthusiasts seem to promote the north facing um Can generate a a steady amount even though it’s never going to be anywhere near South faing but over the course of the year it could average out to 50% of the output so potentially 12 panels on the back of my or the back of my roof could be say the same as six panels on the front of my roof uh we’ll see anyway I’ve rambled on Plenty long enough I’d really value anyone’s input so let me know in the comments what you think and um I’m going to keep getting some quotes and I’m going to put a video together comparing all the different solar quotes and the different options that have been offered um another quick thing to mention is the battery uh may be the thing that’s really dragging down the system that could also potentially yield some earnings depending on some of the smart tariffs um but that is a big part financially I think it came to roughly I think Jack told me it was about £3,000 for the 5.2 KW hour battery again that sounds pretty expensive for what is really a small battery um it’s not going to touch the sides in our in our system and I don’t think we’d ever see a return on investment of having the battery installed so the sums May well be very different if it was 5,799 without battery perhaps the return on investment will be a lot shorter right stop rambling This is the End bye …